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Perry and Shawna Mornings

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February 21, 2025

“Should Christians Watch The Chosen??”

Some Christians believe the TV series The Chosen veers too far from the biblical story. Is it leading people astray or closer to Jesus? Dr. J, Perry, and Shawna give their takes on this.

Biblical scholar Dr. Jeremy Grinnell joins the team to answer bible questions. Jeremy earned his PhD in Systematic Theology from Calvin Seminary and taught seminary in West MI for 15 years.

Other great questions in the podcast:  

The New Testament seems to suggest that only men can be elders. So Stephanie asks, “How can Bible believing churches justify having women elders?

“And if male and female are equal in Christ, how are we to know our roles in marriage?” Also Sarah shares, “Please explain how Jesus can be God when God refers to Jesus as his Son.”

Chris says, “Please unpack the passage in the Sermon on the Mount about settling matters quickly. What if one party doesn't want to reconcile? And if they don’t want to reconcile, should I keep trying?”

And Lyn shares, “God is love, full of mercy and grace. Yet, the Bible says God gets angry, punishes people, causes people to be ill, and even causes and allows people's hearts to be hard. How do we explain this to unbelievers?”

And “Is God still punishing people and causing people's hearts to be hard? If God is causing hard hearts how can they come to accept Jesus as their Savior?”

We’re glad you asked. 😊

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February 20, 2025

“We Are Really Good at Beating Ourselves Up” – Dan Seaborn

"The Lord will keep in perfect peace the one who steadfastly trusts in him" (Isa. 26:3). Much easier said than done. How do we get there?

Dan Seaborn, the founder of Winning At Home points the way! And this is something Dan has learned and is learning!

The first step to this kind of peace is to quit trying to prove to God that you love him. How do we get there? By encouraging one another like Dan does for Perry!

Then, much of Dan’s anxiety started as a child when he didn’t know what version of his dad would show up. The angry one or the peaceful one.

Next Perry reflects, “Maybe this hardship in my life right now just needs to stay cause it’s rooting out the pride in my heart and it’s taking me to a deeper trust.”

Last, Dan admits, “I get depressed!” And when he does he transfers his trust from himself to God.

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February 19, 2025

“Now I know Why Jesus CANNOT Be the Messiah”

That’s what a Jewish attorney said to David after reading Jesus’ words from the cross, “My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?” He reasoned that no Messiah would say that.

What this attorney didn’t realize was that Jesus was quoting Psalm 22 which is one of the most compelling prophecies pointing to Jesus as Messiah! We kick of the podcast with this story.

David Brickner of Jews For Jesus joins us with a conversation around his latest book, Does the Jewish Bible Point To Jesus: 12 Key Prophecies That Unfold God’s Plan.

Also we hear the story of David making the case for Christ with the late Larry King of Larry King LiveAlso David unpacks the first prophecy of a Messiah from Gen. 3:15.

David shares his story of being raised in a family of Jews for Jesus and why he initially walked away from Him. And we talk about how vital it is to preach the love of God to ourselves.

We hear about the hunger for Jesus that has emerged of out of the horror of October 7th 2023 in Israel. And how the carol, “O Little Town of Bethlehem” led to a world-wide movement to reach Jews for Jesus.

If you’re encouraged, please share!

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February 18, 2025

“Life Is Hard, God Is Good” – Auntie Anne

This is a stunning story of beauty from ashes.

Auntie Anne is the founder of Auntie Anne's, the world's largest pretzel franchise.She was born and raised Amish in Pennsylvania; married the love of her life, Jonas in 1968.

7 years into their marriage tragedy struck with the loss of their 19-month-old daughter Angela in a farming accident. She went to her pastor for grief counseling. And he abused her. For nearly 7 years.

Annie says “If I had never brought the darkness into the light, I would still be trapped in my dungeon. And there never would have been an Auntie Anne’s.”

Your new life begins when you bring your pain into the light. Please share this incredible story of redemption!

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February 14, 2025

A Simple Guide for A Better Marriage – Dr. Gary Chapman

Marriage is beautiful. It’s meant to be a picture of Jesus and His love for the church. But it’s tough to live up to that.  Every relationship comes with challenges. Whether you’re in your first or 51st year, you can grow in your marriage.

Dr. Gary Chapman shares stories and insights inspired by decades of counseling couples. With grace and humor, Gary shares time-tested practical wisdom and practical advice on:

  • What do to when your spouse is not where you are at spiritually.
  • How do we as couples get through really hard things together?
  • How does your marriage survive the death of a child?
  • The pain of regret.

Dr. Chapman’s new book A Simple Guide for A Better Marriage will offer your marriage the practical insights every couple needs to thrive.

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Perry LaHaie

Perry LaHaie's passion is to know Jesus and make Him known. “I’m all in with Jesus but not all put together. I need Jesus right now as much as I did when I first started following Him!” Perry says. In addition to co-hosting Perry and Shawna Mornings, Perry is a singer, songwriter, recording artist, and advocate for those who haven’t yet heard the gospel, especially those in the Muslim world. Born and raised in northern Michigan, he earned a bachelor’s degree in Communications and a graduate degree in Cross- cultural Communications. Perry also serves with Frontiers, a worldwide ministry to Muslims. Perry and his bride, Teresa, call Holland, Michigan home. They have two adult children, Kali and Taylor, and Taylor’s bride, Bri.

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Shawna Beyer

Shawna Beyer has a way of telling stories that create personal connection— to her, to one another, and to God. She has been a homeschool mom, church planter, project lead for a consulting company, and church staff member. Though she’s been involved in ministry with her husband (Dan) in Iowa, Arizona, and now Michigan, she was born and raised in Southern California and as they say, “You can take the girl out of California . . .” She is mom to four grown kids (Bryn, Drayson, Eden, and Haven) who no longer need her but humor her anyway. Shawna is passionate about the rhythms we weave into the fabric of our lives to fall more in love with God each day. Healthy foods are her go-to, but she will abandon that whole track in a heartbeat for a homemade cinnamon roll like Grandma used to make.

Perry and Shawna Mornings

Perry and Shawna Mornings

The Perry and Shawna Podcast: Real life conversations reminding you that you’re Abba’s child and that you’re blessed to be a blessing and loved to share Jesus’ love.