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Perry and Shawna Mornings
April 21, 2025
True Christians Should Never Struggle
That’s what Perry thought as a teenager. No Jesus follower ever admitted to him that they were struggling. He thought he had to be all put together.
We’re are driven by our desire to avoid pain. To fake it till we make it. Yet, suffering is unavoidable. So let’s be honest, let’s be human.
Dave Horne, Spiritual Director at Winning at Home, reminds us that Jesus massively suffered. He understands our physical, emotional, relational, and even spiritual pain.
Through experiencing deep loneliness Dave learned how healing connection is. We are created for community!
After 20 years as a pastor and 8 years as a missionary Dave got his best paying job, yet and 2 weeks in, he hated it! Couldn’t sleep at night. Was miserable.
He discovered that he was exhausted from trying to achieve more, go higher, reach more! He was tired of trying to be someone he wasn’t.
It was in his suffering that God allowed Dave to learn about himself and to connect more deeply with God. The hard things in life are how God gets our attention and changes us.
Also, in this episode, Shawna shares what it feels like to be entering into being an empty nester. What’s next? On the day Jesus died the disciples had no idea what was next. But resurrection was just around the corner. It may feel like Friday, but Sunday’s coming!
Perry admits, “I let my best friend down.” Perry’s friend had a shining moment in the past couple weeks. And Perry showed up half-heartedly. And what he received from his buddy after he admitted it, blew him away.
IN THIS EPISODE
David Horne
David loves when his clients take ownership of their own journey and get clarity and how they want to grow and develop. David's background in ministry means that he is passionate about helping people connect more deeply with God. With over 30 years of experience as both a pastor and missionary, David brings compassion and wisdom to every conversation. David holds a Master of Divinity, a certification in Spiritual Direction, and he's an ordained minister.
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Perry LaHaie
Perry LaHaie's passion is to know Jesus and make Him known. “I’m all in with Jesus but not all put together. I need Jesus right now as much as I did when I first started following Him!” Perry says. In addition to co-hosting Perry and Shawna Mornings, Perry is a singer, songwriter, recording artist, and advocate for those who haven’t yet heard the gospel, especially those in the Muslim world. Born and raised in northern Michigan, he earned a bachelor’s degree in Communications and a graduate degree in Cross- cultural Communications. Perry also serves with Frontiers, a worldwide ministry to Muslims. Perry and his bride, Teresa, call Holland, Michigan home. They have two adult children, Kali and Taylor, and Taylor’s bride, Bri.
Shawna Beyer
Shawna Beyer has a way of telling stories that create personal connection— to her, to one another, and to God. She has been a homeschool mom, church planter, project lead for a consulting company, and church staff member. Though she’s been involved in ministry with her husband (Dan) in Iowa, Arizona, and now Michigan, she was born and raised in Southern California and as they say, “You can take the girl out of California . . .” She is mom to four grown kids (Bryn, Drayson, Eden, and Haven) who no longer need her but humor her anyway. Shawna is passionate about the rhythms we weave into the fabric of our lives to fall more in love with God each day. Healthy foods are her go-to, but she will abandon that whole track in a heartbeat for a homemade cinnamon roll like Grandma used to make.
Perry and Shawna Mornings
The Perry and Shawna Podcast: Real life conversations reminding you that you’re Abba’s child and that you’re blessed to be a blessing and loved to share Jesus’ love.