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Perry and Shawna Mornings
March 26, 2025
The Disappearing Seat – Heather Holleman
Jesus revealed truth through story telling. And so does Heather.
Author Heather Holleman joins Perry and Shawna to talk about her new book The Disappearing Seat.
It’s book 2 of the Elita Brown series for young readers. Elita loves December, but this year, it seems everyone’s life is better than hers. Her friends are having amazing adventures and she’s jealous.
Plus, there’s a looming school-wide speech competition and Elita fears public speaking. And where is her mentor when Elita needs her most? In the end, Elita discovers the beautiful life God’s given her.
Perry, Shawna, and Heather talk about how jealousy interferes with being grateful for the seat we have at the table with Jesus; about the gift of nature in our walk with Jesus, the incredible blessing of journaling, and our need for mentors in this life, no matter our age.
Also in the episode...
During a bombing in Gaza, Rasim’s home was hit and it collapsed. His family was trapped in the rubble for 5 days able to breath because of a small space in the midst of concrete. The only reason they’re alive is because a man in a white robe brought them food and water.
Last, Kindness is powerful. Shawna reflects on how a complete stranger’s kind act of holding the door open for her brought her to tears. And tells a powerful story of God’s kindness towards her in a very specific way.
IN THIS EPISODE
Heather Holleman
Dr. Heather Holleman is an associate teaching professor at Penn State, speaker, and author. She designs advanced writing curriculum for the English department and loves helping students thrive professionally. She has written eight books, including the bestseller Seated With Christ: Living Freely in a Culture of Comparison; and an award-winning book on evangelism (co-written with her husband Ashley Holleman) called Sent: Living a Life that Invites Others to Jesus. Heather also serves with Faculty Commons in the professor and graduate student ministry of Cru. She has two daughters, three cats, and a podcast called "The Verb with Heather Holleman." When she's not writing or teaching, Heather is growing a plum orchard, looking for turtles in the woods, or gathering with friends for dinner and a movie.
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Perry LaHaie
Perry LaHaie's passion is to know Jesus and make Him known. “I’m all in with Jesus but not all put together. I need Jesus right now as much as I did when I first started following Him!” Perry says. In addition to co-hosting Perry and Shawna Mornings, Perry is a singer, songwriter, recording artist, and advocate for those who haven’t yet heard the gospel, especially those in the Muslim world. Born and raised in northern Michigan, he earned a bachelor’s degree in Communications and a graduate degree in Cross- cultural Communications. Perry also serves with Frontiers, a worldwide ministry to Muslims. Perry and his bride, Teresa, call Holland, Michigan home. They have two adult children, Kali and Taylor, and Taylor’s bride, Bri.
Shawna Beyer
Shawna Beyer has a way of telling stories that create personal connection— to her, to one another, and to God. She has been a homeschool mom, church planter, project lead for a consulting company, and church staff member. Though she’s been involved in ministry with her husband (Dan) in Iowa, Arizona, and now Michigan, she was born and raised in Southern California and as they say, “You can take the girl out of California . . .” She is mom to four grown kids (Bryn, Drayson, Eden, and Haven) who no longer need her but humor her anyway. Shawna is passionate about the rhythms we weave into the fabric of our lives to fall more in love with God each day. Healthy foods are her go-to, but she will abandon that whole track in a heartbeat for a homemade cinnamon roll like Grandma used to make.
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