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Perry and Shawna Mornings

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February 11, 2025

Her Last Words, “It’s Real. It’s Real”

Doubts are real but so is heaven. At the end of her life she began to wonder if she was good enough to go to heaven. Then she spoke her final words and all doubt was put to rest.

Perry shares, “Last Sunday I didn’t feel like getting up for church, didn’t feel like raising my hands in worship, didn’t feel like visiting my suffering friend. Before crawling into bed Sunday night I got on my face praying ‘Lord help.’ “

Shawna’s daughter Haven was afraid. Shawna wanted to be there for her every second, but couldn’t. Then God sent a tatted up guy to be there for Haven and the message on his tattoo proved that God was completely in it.

What if being “in Christ,” is more than a theological idea? What if it’s more like being immersed in an ocean of love where you’re so seen, known, loved, and safe that there’s no way you can ever be separated from it?

Is believing a lie a sin? Is an apology a confession? Perry and Shawna wrestle out what it means to come into agreement with God and His truth.

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Perry LaHaie

Perry LaHaie's passion is to know Jesus and make Him known. “I’m all in with Jesus but not all put together. I need Jesus right now as much as I did when I first started following Him!” Perry says. In addition to co-hosting Perry and Shawna Mornings, Perry is a singer, songwriter, recording artist, and advocate for those who haven’t yet heard the gospel, especially those in the Muslim world. Born and raised in northern Michigan, he earned a bachelor’s degree in Communications and a graduate degree in Cross- cultural Communications. Perry also serves with Frontiers, a worldwide ministry to Muslims. Perry and his bride, Teresa, call Holland, Michigan home. They have two adult children, Kali and Taylor, and Taylor’s bride, Bri.

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Shawna Beyer

Shawna Beyer has a way of telling stories that create personal connection— to her, to one another, and to God. She has been a homeschool mom, church planter, project lead for a consulting company, and church staff member. Though she’s been involved in ministry with her husband (Dan) in Iowa, Arizona, and now Michigan, she was born and raised in Southern California and as they say, “You can take the girl out of California . . .” She is mom to four grown kids (Bryn, Drayson, Eden, and Haven) who no longer need her but humor her anyway. Shawna is passionate about the rhythms we weave into the fabric of our lives to fall more in love with God each day. Healthy foods are her go-to, but she will abandon that whole track in a heartbeat for a homemade cinnamon roll like Grandma used to make.

Perry and Shawna Mornings

The Perry and Shawna Podcast: Real life conversations reminding you that you’re Abba’s child and that you’re blessed to be a blessing and loved to share Jesus’ love.