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August 19, 2024
“Don’t Know If I Can Believe God Is Good Anymore”
Kathy Keller says that “If every crisis in life causes us to doubt God’s goodness then we haven’t reached our tipping point. We reach it when no matter what happens, we’re convinced God is good. It’s OK if you’re not there. It’s a journey!
Kathy’s an author and speaker who’s the wife of the late Tim Keller who went to Jesus in May of 2023 after a battle with pancreatic cancer at the height of his ministry. Kathy shares how she trusts the goodness of God especially on days she misses Tim most.
She shares how “Death concentrates the mind wonderfully.” Facing death helps us shed our counterfeit gods. Perry and Kathy share how grateful they are for all the times God has said “No,” to their prayers.
Then, whatever we fear losing most in life is an idol. And Kathy shares what she was holding onto so tightly before Tim was diagnosed with cancer. And last, Tim Keller shares what conquers all our idols, all our anxieties and all our greatest fears: The gospel!
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Kathy Keller
Kathy Keller graduated from Gordon Conwell Theological Seminary summa cum laude with her MA in Theological Studies in 1975. She married Tim Keller just six months earlier and served alongside him at Redeemer Presbyterian Church in New York City. She is the author of Jesus, Justice and Gender Roles, and she and Tim have co-authored The Meaning of Marriage; The Songs of Jesus; God’s Wisdom for Navigating Life (Proverbs); and The Meaning of Marriage Devotional. She has also written for The Gospel Coalition.
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Perry LaHaie
Perry LaHaie's passion is to know Jesus and make Him known. “I’m all in with Jesus but not all put together. I need Jesus right now as much as I did when I first started following Him!” Perry says. In addition to co-hosting Perry and Shawna Mornings, Perry is a singer, songwriter, recording artist, and advocate for those who haven’t yet heard the gospel, especially those in the Muslim world. Born and raised in northern Michigan, he earned a bachelor’s degree in Communications and a graduate degree in Cross- cultural Communications. Perry also serves with Frontiers, a worldwide ministry to Muslims. Perry and his bride, Teresa, call Holland, Michigan home. They have two adult children, Kali and Taylor, and Taylor’s bride, Bri.
Shawna Beyer
Shawna Beyer has a way of telling stories that create personal connection— to her, to one another, and to God. She has been a homeschool mom, church planter, project lead for a consulting company, and church staff member. Though she’s been involved in ministry with her husband (Dan) in Iowa, Arizona, and now Michigan, she was born and raised in Southern California and as they say, “You can take the girl out of California . . .” She is mom to four grown kids (Bryn, Drayson, Eden, and Haven) who no longer need her but humor her anyway. Shawna is passionate about the rhythms we weave into the fabric of our lives to fall more in love with God each day. Healthy foods are her go-to, but she will abandon that whole track in a heartbeat for a homemade cinnamon roll like Grandma used to make.
Perry and Shawna Mornings
The Perry and Shawna Podcast: Real life conversations reminding you that you’re Abba’s child and that you’re blessed to be a blessing and loved to share Jesus’ love.